On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 3:03 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 04:26:52PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-04-04 at 18:35 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 6:17 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > > <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 11:21:36AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > > > So here are three brainstorming proposals: > > > > > > > > > > (a) Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop becomes a Fedora edition. We'd need to be > > > > > careful about how we do it. I would still promote Fedora Workstation as the > > > > > main/recommended "leading" desktop, would call Plasma an "alternative > > > > > desktop option," and would strongly caution against use of the word > > > > > "Workstation" anywhere in the branding for the Plasma version. That is, > > > > > let's continue to steer undecided users towards Fedora Workstation, while > > > > > making Plasma easier to find and presenting it more prominently than it is > > > > > today. > > > > > > > > I like this proposal. It would give the KDE spin more prominence and > > > > would be a good reply to the huge work that has been put into the spin > > > > in recent times. It also wouldn't disrupt our story about Fedora Workstation. > > > > > > > > If we call it "Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop" or similarly, it won't be > > > > confused with Fedora Workstation. > > > > > > > > > > So, effectively no change other than it moves from the Spins section > > > to the Editions section? That would also mean it should be on the > > > front page too, like the other Editions. > > > > Being an Edition is a very significant thing, though, as we conceive of > > Fedora more widely than just the download page. We put a bunch of hoops > > in the way of IoT and CoreOS becoming editions, and there are hoops in > > the way of Silverblue becoming one (or, you know, wherever we go with > > that path in the end). > > My silent assumption was that the current change proposal would be > withdrawn and replaced by a new proposal. We have a formal procedure in [1]. > Looking at that list, it seems all fine. The only sticky point is whether > KDE desktop serves a different purpose than Workstation with GNOME. > I'd say it does: desktop preferences are like religion, and people don't > just switch (except when they do). > > [1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/council/policy/edition-promotion-policy/ > I have asked that the proposal only be withdrawn once an alternative arrangement has been successfully made[1]. I don't expect it to be withdrawn until that is figured out, since Matthew Miller didn't promise anything to resolve the underlying request to make Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop as visible as Fedora GNOME Workstation[2]. [1]: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/111343/44 [2]: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/111343/41 -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue