On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 6:17 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 11:21:36AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > So here are three brainstorming proposals: > > > > (a) Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop becomes a Fedora edition. We'd need to be > > careful about how we do it. I would still promote Fedora Workstation as the > > main/recommended "leading" desktop, would call Plasma an "alternative > > desktop option," and would strongly caution against use of the word > > "Workstation" anywhere in the branding for the Plasma version. That is, > > let's continue to steer undecided users towards Fedora Workstation, while > > making Plasma easier to find and presenting it more prominently than it is > > today. > > I like this proposal. It would give the KDE spin more prominence and > would be a good reply to the huge work that has been put into the spin > in recent times. It also wouldn't disrupt our story about Fedora Workstation. > > If we call it "Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop" or similarly, it won't be > confused with Fedora Workstation. > So, effectively no change other than it moves from the Spins section to the Editions section? That would also mean it should be on the front page too, like the other Editions. > > (b) Alternatively, elevate the positioning of all spins on the > > fedoraproject.org homepage. Place the link to the spins right next to the > > link to Fedora Workstation, above the atomic desktops (which are sadly still > > experimental), above the Fedora labs and ALT downloads, and honestly > > probably above the non-desktop Fedora editions. Nobody is going to be > > confused as to which one is the primary product. > > I'm not sure. I think the getfedora.o page could use some work, but > just moving one or two things might not be enough. For me, when using > the website is the huge list semi-orthogonal categories: > the top-level split is: > - editions, as individual items > - atomic desktops > - spins > - labs > - alt downloads > Alt downloads is split into: > - Fedora 40 beta > - network installer > - torrent downloads > - alternate architectures (even though download pages also have architectures?) > - cloud base images > - testing images > - rawhide > The Fedora Spins looks great, IMO. > The Fedora Labs page looks nice too. > > There's also a visual split > I also always struggle to find Beta releases when I need them. > In some places there's a banner with a link, in other places there's a toogle. > > And there are at least three domains: > getfedora.org, fedoraproject.org, alt.fedoraproject.org. > > This is hard to navigate. It seems that each subpage uses a different > categorization and way to split things. And the different subpages > use different visual styles. > > I think we should have: > a) one domain > > b) a flat categorization where you first select the type > (one of the editions or the desktops or spins or labs or network > installer or cloud image). > > The editions should be listed prominently, and the other things can > lower in the page or require a click to show. > > c) at all subpages there should be a toggle button to show > pre-release > > d) once you know what to download, you can see > the architecture and format options and torrent vs. iso. > > In such a structure the same "procedure" would be used to navigate > different choices, making it easier to figure out what all the options > are. > There are only two artifacts left on alt.fedoraproject.org that really need to be moved to the main site: - the Everything netinstall ISO - the Fedora base container images We should maybe consider adding the torrent downloads to the main site, I guess? The alternative architecture images page needs to be decommissioned, as it's redundant with the content on the main site. The rest of alt.fedoraproject.org is probably fine as it is, as I doubt we want to put Rawhide somewhere on the main site. (Also, as an aside, I learned that Workstation has a ppc64le ISO, I guess we should ensure KDE has one too, it's not like we don't have it for Kinoite already.) -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
