On Tue, May 9, 2023, at 2:47 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 01:31:01PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: >> Once upon a time, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: >> > What about the increasing growth in linux-firmware and in particular the NVIDIA firmware requirements? My reading suggests it's significant and the future growth also significant. >> >> Could we use a dumb framebuffer in initrd and get rid of all the GPU >> firmware from the image? > > Maybe, probably, who knows… But it's not just the video. The pressure > to add more stuff and more drivers will only grow: bluetooth for keyboards > and FIDO2, sound support for voice assistance, network for remote attestation > or clevis, etc. We can push this can down the road, but it seems we need > to be ready to add move stuff before root is available anyway. I still think we need less kernel and initramfs in order to get more by having `/` available faster. Fast enough that the user isn't looking for or expecting interactivity in the few seconds it should take to get to `/` being mounted. Otherwise, next up will be embeding GNOME Shell into the initramfs because we're tired of waiting for a real a11y and i18n environment to be available so we can prompt the user for an encryption passphrase with appropriate rules, fonts, locale support, etc. I can conjure up some use cases for stuffing Firefox in the initramfs. Maybe we should just put /usr into the initramfs. We'll just all accept 20+ second linux+initrd times to accommodate everyone getting through the elevator door simultaneously. No problem. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue