On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 at 23:58, Kevin Kofler via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> I may be in that list of toning down, but that is OK. Look it's really
> time for new people to come in and break things. It is the only way they
> really learn if something is something that should be really avoided or
> was a taboo we had from the 1990's which we can't see as cargo culting
> anymore.
>
> Maybe a bunch of packages will be dropped and Fedora will become 'useless'
> to some of us older contributors. This isn't the first time that has
> happened with the distribution (we saw large drop-offs after we stopped
> Xen and when we changed desktops to GNOME3.) and if the distribution is to
> last as an institution, it won't be the last. We who aren't happy with it
> can either make do with something else, adapt, or finally retire to grow
> potatoes like all the programmers I knew from the 1980s who had gotten
> tired of all the changes over the years.
But what if the major influx of new contributors that you proponents of this
s/you/the/;
I am NOT a proponent of this proposal. I don't want to go to Discourse. Web interfaces like that cause me cognitive pain and grumpiness to use longer than a few minutes. As such I know my involvement with Fedora will go down further.
If it comes across that I am for this change, it is because I am tired and frustrated. The mailman system has been running on inertia since at least February 2018, when the last software updates to the mailman software were done. Over the last 5 years, the system has mostly run, but in the last year has increasingly had longer and longer outages. My tiredness comes from spending most of my Thanksgiving and Winter breaks trying to find reasons and then doing whatever cave-man hacks I could to fix it without breaking mail altogether. My frustration and anger comes from the fact that I spent most of the last 5 years assuming that it was somebody else's problem and they would take care of it so I could focus on keeping other things running.
Stephen Smoogen, Red Hat Automotive
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