On Sat, 2005-07-16 at 02:50 -0400, Peter Jones wrote: > > All my experiences, without fail, has > > shown that menu to be highly enjoyed by all users: from completely > > clueless to advanced. > > Please, I know you miss the menu item, but do try to be at least > moderately realistic. It's not that I miss it that much -- I can maybe see some of the arguments against it. I've got into this thread initially because I felt people were told to take a hike. Now, as for the "moderately realistic", you probably refer to my statement that "completely clueless" users enjoyed it. I wasn't kidding. I've installed FC3 on my g/f box. She is a _very_ non-technical user by any conceivable measure. However, she needed access to a terminal day one, and now she always has one opened. I understand the "this is a bug" idea (to a certain point), but reality is harsh. It's going to take many years for this to change, and removing a generally useful feature way before its time is not helpful. Please do not misunderstand me: I think the removal is a mistake, but I don't think it's a huge deal. I wouldn't have maybe even posted at all in this thread if it was for the barrage of comments like "go tell someone who cares", "take a hike, you're not our user", etc. I think this defeats the very reason for having Fedora in the first place (if I understood Michael Tieman correctly at FUDConf). And it pains me to see this happen because I love Fedora. I really do. -- Dimi Paun <dimi@xxxxxxxxxxx> Lattica, Inc. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list