On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 06:15:41PM +0200, Daniel Roesen wrote: > > I once was under the impression that all this here is done for users, > isn't it? So accept user feedback. Let me get this straight. Case A: - User finds something he dislikes about Fedora's Gnome desktop. - User complains to fedora-devel-list/fedora-list/bugzilla.redhat.com/... - User is told to take his complaint upstream. - User takes his complaint upstream. - Developer takes complaint and cooks up patch/change/workabout/... - Change is released in the following Gnome version. - Change is included in every Gnome installation (including Fedora's). Case B: - User finds something he dislikes about Fedora's Gnome desktop. - User complains to fedora-devel-list/fedora-list/bugzilla.redhat.com/... - Fedora maintainer add patchs to package. - Next Fedora version includes said patch. with the following effects: - Developer complains about changes and refuses to handle bug reports about the fedora package (whether the bug reports are related to the patch or not). - Maintainer has to maintain said patch for life. - User is never introduced to new (possibly better) ways of using his desktop. - Users of other distributions are still using the crappy (according to the user) Gnome desktop). Now, I don't see any possible way Case B could be argued more effective than Case A. In fact, I think it's worse in every possible respect. Emmanuel -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list