On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 09:18:54PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > By "effective," don't you mean efficient? > > > > Yes, sorry. English is unfortunately not my native language. :-Z > > No apology necessary, I just wanted to make sure I understood you > correctly. Yup, that's how I understood your intention too. I'm just curse myself for such mistakes. :-) > > There is not just black and white. There are shades of grey, too. "Best > > of both worlds" approach. > > True. One size does not fit all. GNOME tries to fit most "general > users," for example. Can you please describe those users? Please including statistical evidence that this fits the Fedora(!) user base. > Wrong. But I will admit I typed the wrong key sequence below. I have a > shortcut assigned to "Ctrl+Alt+T," not "Ctrl+Shift+T," which opens up a > new terminal tab. No matter what I'm doing -- even in a terminal > already -- Ctrl+Alt+T opens up a new terminal. I don't need to move the > mouse at all. And what if the application running in the terminal needs to receive those keypresses? Keyboard shortcuts are always a difficult subject, as it's important which application (desktop being one of them) receives it, or has priority. Yes, compromises can be made. Still, I need to grab the mouse anyway to quickly position the window exactly where I want it. The ALT-F7 cursor-key movement (even with the Shift acceleration) doesn't cut it at all (for me). > Notwithstanding the above, I am responding only to your claim that the > right-click "Open Terminal" is the most efficient way to *open a > terminal.* Now you're talking about moving it where you want it, which > has little to do with using nautilus-open-terminal. Well, it's the whole procedure to getting a new terminal ready for action. That includes (to me) starting the terminal and positioning and perhaps resizing it to what I want. I can never get to the speed of using the mouse for that with keyboard functions. And I'm quite a quick keyboard typist, I'm doing it since since literally infancy. :-) > > Now if metacity would actually pop the window ready-to-drag under the > > mouse pointer (drop where it should be by left-click... you know, all > > the stuff fvwm had many many years ago already), even that could be > > optimized, as no mouse movement to fetch the newly popped up window (in > > the left upper corner, where the average mouse movement necessariy is > > max) would be necessary anymore. > > You keep getting further away from the argument at hand. What metacity > does has nothing to do with this thread either. Indeed. I was fading away, thinking load how to even more speed up the process and make the GUI more convenient. > None of this precludes the use of nautilus-open-terminal. You haven't > responded to the more relevant and important part of my post, which is > about getting nautilus-open-terminal included as part of a new package > combination, say for power users. I did, but probably in other responses to other folks. I think the idea of a package to add such an IMHO essential triviality back to GNOME is like asking for people to shop again for the gear shift handle after buying a new car. It's just completely over the top, IMHO. Regards, Daniel -- CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber: dr@xxxxxxxxxx -- dr@IRCnet -- PGP: 0xA85C8AA0 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
