On 7/15/05, Daniel Roesen <dr@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > If you wanted to start a shell as *efficiently* as possible, you > > wouldn't use the GUI at all; you'd be working in a tty all day. > > No. As I need to have several shells visible side-by-side all the time, > and interact with Firefox and sometimes OpenOffice. Sorry, but what does that have to do with using a key combination to open a new shell? Gnome-terminal has tabs, and if they don't float your boat, windows. Metacity takes great pains not to open overlapping windows, too. > > If you *had* to use the GUI for some other reason, the most efficient > > way to open a shell would be by assigning a keyboard shortcut. > > No, as that would conflict with the terminals, wouldn't it? So I would > need to move the mouse out of the application/terminal windows to have > the desktop getting input focus... OOPS, impossible with metacity! And I really think you should try this before dismissing it. I have a key combination (alt-esc, in case you're wondering), that I use to open a new terminal. It works no matter what application has focus. > Yes, but I need to grab the mouse anyway to position the new terminal > window where I need it. Ummm... no you don't. Open the new shell (with a key combination), then use alt-F7 to move the window (with the cursor keys). So my usual action to open a new terminal is > to grab the mouse, right-click, move a few pixels to the very first > option "Open Terminal", left-click, and then drag the window where it > needs to be. Beat this. You can't. My, how inefficient! > Now if metacity would actually pop the window ready-to-drag under the > mouse pointer (drop where it should be by left-click... you know, all > the stuff fvwm had many many years ago already), even that could be > optimized, as no mouse movement to fetch the newly popped up window (in > the left upper corner, where the average mouse movement necessariy is > max) would be necessary anymore. Yes, one *could* add all that cruft into metacity, or one could just use fvwm instead. Or one could use the keybindings that are defaulted into GNOME. > So opening a new terminal would be: > > - right click > - move mouse a millimeter > - left click > - move mouse to where the term/app should go > - left click > > => done. THAT is efficient. :-) Ugh, no. That's horribly inefficent. Efficient is: - alt+esc: open new terminal - alt+F6: put metacity into "move window" mode - use shift & cursor keys to put the term/app where it should go - start using the term/app Very efficient, and no need to take my hands off the keyboard! -- Ben Steeves _ bcs@xxxxxxxxxx The ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) ben.steeves@xxxxxxxxx against HTML e-mail X GPG ID: 0xB3EBF1D9 http://www.metacon.ca/bcs / \ Yahoo Messenger: ben_steeves -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
