On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 10:03:52PM -0300, Ben Steeves wrote: > On 7/15/05, Daniel Roesen <dr@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > If you wanted to start a shell as *efficiently* as possible, you > > > wouldn't use the GUI at all; you'd be working in a tty all day. > > > > No. As I need to have several shells visible side-by-side all the time, > > and interact with Firefox and sometimes OpenOffice. > > Sorry, but what does that have to do with using a key combination to > open a new shell? Gnome-terminal has tabs, and if they don't float > your boat, windows. Metacity takes great pains not to open > overlapping windows, too. Please actually read what I was replying to before jumping in. > I really think you should try this before dismissing it. I have a key > combination (alt-esc, in case you're wondering), that I use to open a > new terminal. It works no matter what application has focus. And now you're working with an application that needs this key combination in your terminal, or in the application itself. What now? > > Yes, but I need to grab the mouse anyway to position the new terminal > > window where I need it. > > Ummm... no you don't. Open the new shell (with a key combination), > then use alt-F7 to move the window (with the cursor keys). It takes 4 seconds to move a window in Y axis and 6 seconds in X axis here with that method. Moving window with cursor keys... sorry, don't have time and nerve for that game. :-) With the mouse I'm done in 1.5-2.5 seconds OVERALL. > > So opening a new terminal would be: > > > > - right click > > - move mouse a millimeter > > - left click > > - move mouse to where the term/app should go > > - left click > > > > => done. THAT is efficient. :-) > > Ugh, no. That's horribly inefficent. Efficient is: > > - alt+esc: open new terminal > - alt+F6: put metacity into "move window" mode > - use shift & cursor keys to put the term/app where it should go > - start using the term/app > > Very efficient, and no need to take my hands off the keyboard! I'm already in your step4 when you're still working your cursor keys. Really. You won't beat left-hand-on-keyboard (for ALT to move the window) and right-on-mouse raising and moving the term. :-) The time it takes for your method to open up a new term and move it into the right lower corner here takes TEN SECONDS. Mine takes less than two. Try it. :-) Best regards, Daniel -- CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber: dr@xxxxxxxxxx -- dr@IRCnet -- PGP: 0xA85C8AA0 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
