On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 03:23:34PM +0000, Alexander Sosedkin wrote: > Quoting Kevin Kofler via devel (2022-06-30 14:15:04) > > You are making two doubtful assumptions: > > > > 1. That the users will bother reporting their issues to the server > > administrators at all. I would expect them to just blame Fedora for it and > > move to a different operating system that just works, or at most to apply a > > local workaround (what I called "jump through hoops", e.g., changing the > > system crypto policy to LEGACY and/or loading the legacy provider with its > > legacy algorithms into OpenSSL) and then forget about it. > > > 2. That the server administrators will actually care about complaints from > > non-Windows users, assuming they even read user complaints at all to begin > > with, and that they will be willing to switch to newer (more secure) > > algorithms that may break compatibility with some ancient operating systems > > that other users might still use. > > I agree with your statements > but I do not make the assumptions you prescribe to me. > I'm painfully aware that progress doesn't happen magically > when we break something in Fedora. > Hoops are a horrible propellant of progress, > but still the best one we have. Practically what would help is an easier way to reduce security for only specific sites + protocols. It's very easy right now to set the whole system to LEGACY, and much harder to set legacy for a specific site + protocol. (In fact I have no idea how to go about it for this particular case we're talking about.) Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com nbdkit - Flexible, fast NBD server with plugins https://gitlab.com/nbdkit/nbdkit _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure