Clemens Lang wrote: > I hope you’re not suggesting we keep the defaults insecure because there > are some institutions out there that don’t support modern standards. Sorry, but I am. The defaults need to work out there in the real world. If legacy standards are still widespread, they need to be supported out of the box, without having to jump through hoops. Users want to be able to connect to their WPA* WiFi networks, view their HTTPS websites, etc. They do not care whether those use the latest, most secure versions of the standard or not. (In fact, most users do not even care that encryption is used at all, they only use encryption at all because the other end forces them to, i.e., because the WiFi network requires it, or the website uses HTTP to HTTPS redirection and/or HSTS, etc.) Kevin Kofler _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure