Re: Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal?

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On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 2:29 PM Peter Boy <pboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > Am 14.04.2022 um 20:20 schrieb Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
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> > Once upon a time, Robbie Harwood <rharwood@xxxxxxxxxx> said:
> >> Given there is consensus that legacy BIOS is on its way out
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> > I don't think this statement is true, unless Fedora doesn't want to be
> > considered for a bunch of popular VM hosts (e.g. Linode and such) that
> > have no stated plans to support UEFI.
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> > Maybe "legacy BIOS on physical hardware" is on its way out, but it
> > doesn't seem that it is true across the board in VM environments.
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> That’s maybe true for desktops, but in the server world any server needs to be able to do bios boot, because of the data center requirements.
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This is not completely true for servers either. Proprietary BMCs like
iDRAC and iLO both have transitioned to UEFI in the past few years. At
least the first one I got my hands on that didn't mark EFI support as
experimental (and worked properly) was in 2016. Supermicro IPMI has
supported UEFI boot on most servers since about 2018, so it's
certainly in place in a number of places. The Redfish standard became
supported in EDK2 in 2019 as well.

Server adoption is definitely *much* slower than desktop adoption
because servers are much more expensive to deal with and replace. Not
to mention, Microsoft just didn't bother making it matter for Windows
Server certification until last year (even though Windows is a small
part of the market relative to Linux).

The tooling is there, it's just going to take the next decade to catch
up to desktops.



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