On Thursday, 07 April 2022 at 18:42, Robbie Harwood wrote: > Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > On Wed, Apr 6 2022 at 03:35:38 PM -0400, Jared Dominguez > > <jaredz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> This seems like a strong assumption to me considering that aside from > >> the largest cloud providers (with whom Red Hat is directly working > >> with on UEFI boot features and bug reports), cloud providers are > >> using off-the-shelf hypervisors that support UEFI boot. > > > > I'm going to ask the proposal authors to at least mention this as a > > risk in the Feedback section of the change proposal. Maybe cloud > > providers will all see this as a good opportunity to enable UEFI on > > their platforms, and we'll be perfectly fine. I rather suspect it's not > > going to happen quite so smoothly, though.... > > I have appended added my analysis of this to the Feedback section. For > clarity, it's copied here: > > During mailing list discussion of this change, concern was expressed > that some of the smaller hosting providers who do not provision with > UEFI today and do not also support Windows would drop Fedora rather > than enabling UEFI. Given that the major virtualization solutions > (vsphere, kvm, xen, bhve, virtualbox, ...) all support UEFI today, ...latest versions of... And the provider in question might not be running the latest version. > this would likely be exposing an existing capability rather than > making a sweeping change. It's equally likely that they'd have to upgrade their virtualization platform to the latest version first and then update their internal UI/tooling to expose UEFI. I'd call that a sweeping change while you're downplaying the scope of it. > That said, it is always possible that > providers may elect to drop Fedora rather than adjust their setups - > be it for this change or any other change Fedora makes. That's completely unnecessary. It adds nothing but attempt to dilute the impact of this change. Regards, Dominik -- Fedora https://getfedora.org | RPM Fusion http://rpmfusion.org There should be a science of discontent. People need hard times and oppression to develop psychic muscles. -- from "Collected Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure