On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 2:26 PM Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 6 2022 at 01:57:00 PM -0400, Neal Gompa
<ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Moving past the Big Three(tm), the actual
> cloud providers that matter from a Fedora context are the smaller
> outfits that principally serve Linux users. These are companies like
> DigitalOcean, Linode (Akamai), Hetzner, VexxHost, and others who
> graciously do offer Fedora Linux in their platforms. All of their
> virtualization platforms are BIOS only right now, and getting them to
> switch requires them to uplift their platforms to support UEFI in the
> first place.
This seems like a strong assumption to me considering that aside from the largest cloud providers (with whom Red Hat is directly working with on UEFI boot features and bug reports), cloud providers are using off-the-shelf hypervisors that support UEFI boot.
And again, when UEFI means things like VM snapshots and
I've raised this within Red Hat's virtualization team.
> cloud hibernation don't work, it's not very compelling.
AWS, for example has other situations in which this limitation exists: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/instance-hibernate-limitations.html
But this is also something that can be fixed.
I suppose we should consider that all or most of these platforms are
likely to drop Fedora as a supported option if we proceed with this
change proposal.
Why? VMware vSphere dropped legacy x86 boot support recently too. We already know that Windows 11 requires UEFI. We (Red Hat) are actively working with several cloud providers on UEFI-related features, some of which are not possible with legacy x86 boot. I find it much more likely that smaller cloud providers will update their software to support UEFI rather than drop OS's that require it, at least if they want to remain competitive.
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