Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 10:36 AM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 10:03 AM Jared Dominguez <jaredz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 4:51 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <
> dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, 06 April 2022 at 21:35, Jared Dominguez wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 2:26 PM Michael Catanzaro <
> mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Wed, Apr 6 2022 at 01:57:00 PM -0400, Neal Gompa
> >> > > <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > > > Moving past the Big Three(tm), the actual
> >> > > > cloud providers that matter from a Fedora context are the smaller
> >> > > > outfits that principally serve Linux users. These are companies
> like
> >> > > > DigitalOcean, Linode (Akamai), Hetzner, VexxHost, and others who
> >> > > > graciously do offer Fedora Linux in their platforms. All of their
> >> > > > virtualization platforms are BIOS only right now, and getting
> them to
> >> > > > switch requires them to uplift their platforms to support UEFI in
> the
> >> > > > first place.
> >> >
> >> > This seems like a strong assumption to me considering that aside from
> the
> >> > largest cloud providers (with whom Red Hat is directly working with
> on UEFI
> >> > boot features and bug reports), cloud providers are using
> off-the-shelf
> >> > hypervisors that support UEFI boot.
> >>
> >> OVH is not providing UEFI boot option at this time. I'd argue they are
> >> a large hosting provider.
> >
> >
> > Looks like they are using vSphere, which supports UEFI VMs. The same is
> true for KVM, Xen and bhyve, so it's more about what feature set cloud
> providers using these hypervisors are choosing to turn on.
> >
>
> OVHcloud is OpenStack based:
>
> https://www.theregister.com/2019/04/29/ovh_adds_bare_metal_fighters_to_its_roster_looking_to_challenge_the_us_cloud_dominance/
>
> However, OpenStack's UEFI support is seemingly broken. For example,
> the OpenStack deployment I use at work fail to boot UEFI VMs when I
> set the appropriate flags, which have existed since OpenStack Mitaka
> (we're testing on Ussuri right now). According to internal research,
> it *may* be fixed in an upcoming OpenStack release, but no one is
> sure...
>


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