> -- > =E7=9C=9F=E5=AE=9F=E3=81=AF=E3=81=84=E3=81=A4=E3=82=82=E4=B8=80=E3=81=A4= =EF=BC=81/ Always, there's only one truth! > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.o= rg > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > --=20 Jared Dominguez (he/him) Software Engineering Manager New Platform Technologies Enablement team RHEL Workstation Engineering If I am emailing outside of business hours (mine or yours), it is my choice and does not mean I expect you to respond today. --000000000000ba1f3005dc11833f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 10:36 AM Neal = Gompa <<a href=3D"mailto:ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx";>ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx</a>> = wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0= px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Thu, A= pr 7, 2022 at 10:03 AM Jared Dominguez <<a href=3D"mailto:jaredz@redhat.= com" target=3D"_blank">jaredz@xxxxxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 4:51 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski = <<a href=3D"mailto:dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; target=3D"_blank">dominik@gre= ysector.net</a>> wrote:<br> >><br> >> On Wednesday, 06 April 2022 at 21:35, Jared Dominguez wrote:<br> >> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 2:26 PM Michael Catanzaro <<a href= =3D"mailto:mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx"; target=3D"_blank">mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx</a>= ><br> >> > wrote:<br> >> ><br> >> > > On Wed, Apr 6 2022 at 01:57:00 PM -0400, Neal Gompa<br> >> > > <<a href=3D"mailto:ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx"; target=3D"_bla= nk">ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx</a>> wrote:<br> >> > > > Moving past the Big Three(tm), the actual<br> >> > > > cloud providers that matter from a Fedora context a= re the smaller<br> >> > > > outfits that principally serve Linux users. These a= re companies like<br> >> > > > DigitalOcean, Linode (Akamai), Hetzner, VexxHost, a= nd others who<br> >> > > > graciously do offer Fedora Linux in their platforms= . All of their<br> >> > > > virtualization platforms are BIOS only right now, a= nd getting them to<br> >> > > > switch requires them to uplift their platforms to s= upport UEFI in the<br> >> > > > first place.<br> >> ><br> >> > This seems like a strong assumption to me considering that as= ide from the<br> >> > largest cloud providers (with whom Red Hat is directly workin= g with on UEFI<br> >> > boot features and bug reports), cloud providers are using off= -the-shelf<br> >> > hypervisors that support UEFI boot.<br> >><br> >> OVH is not providing UEFI boot option at this time. I'd argue = they are<br> >> a large hosting provider.<br> ><br> ><br> > Looks like they are using vSphere, which supports UEFI VMs. The same i= s true for KVM, Xen and bhyve, so it's more about what feature set clou= d providers using these hypervisors are choosing to turn on.<br> ><br> <br> OVHcloud is OpenStack based:<br> <a href=3D"https://www.theregister.com/2019/04/29/ovh_adds_bare_metal_fight= ers_to_its_roster_looking_to_challenge_the_us_cloud_dominance/" rel=3D"nore= ferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.theregister.com/2019/04/29/ovh_adds_b= are_metal_fighters_to_its_roster_looking_to_challenge_the_us_cloud_dominanc= e/</a><br> <br> However, OpenStack's UEFI support is seemingly broken. For example,<br> the OpenStack deployment I use at work fail to boot UEFI VMs when I<br> set the appropriate flags, which have existed since OpenStack Mitaka<br> (we're testing on Ussuri right now). According to internal research,<br= > it *may* be fixed in an upcoming OpenStack release, but no one is<br> sure...<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>From what I've found, it lo= oks like they use both. Anyway, Red Hat has customers using UEFI with OpenS= tack, which I'm aware of from seeing bug reports which we fix. Have you= reported the bugs that you've seen?</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol= id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">--<br> =E7=9C=9F=E5=AE=9F=E3=81=AF=E3=81=84=E3=81=A4=E3=82=82=E4=B8=80=E3=81=A4=EF= =BC=81/ Always, there's only one truth!<br> _______________________________________________<br> devel mailing list -- <a href=3D"mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; targ= et=3D"_blank">devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br> To unsubscribe send an email to <a href=3D"mailto:devel-leave@lists.fedorap= roject.org" target=3D"_blank">devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br> Fedora Code of Conduct: <a href=3D"https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/pro= ject/code-of-conduct/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.fe= doraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/</a><br> List Guidelines: <a href=3D"https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_gui= delines" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wik= i/Mailing_list_guidelines</a><br> List Archives: <a href=3D"https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/dev= el@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://li= sts.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br> Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: <a href=3D"https://pagure.io/f= edora-infrastructure" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://pagure.i= o/fedora-infrastructure</a><br> </blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"= class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Jared Dominguez (he/him)</= div><div>Software Engineering Manager</div>New Platform Technologies Enable= ment team<div>RHEL Workstation Engineering</div><div><br></div><div>If I am= emailing outside of business hours (mine or yours), it is my choice and do= es not mean I expect you to respond today.<br></div></div></div></div> --000000000000ba1f3005dc11833f-- --===============9122771494525979162== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KZGV2ZWwgbWFp bGluZyBsaXN0IC0tIGRldmVsQGxpc3RzLmZlZG9yYXByb2plY3Qub3JnClRvIHVuc3Vic2NyaWJl IHNlbmQgYW4gZW1haWwgdG8gZGV2ZWwtbGVhdmVAbGlzdHMuZmVkb3JhcHJvamVjdC5vcmcKRmVk b3JhIENvZGUgb2YgQ29uZHVjdDogaHR0cHM6Ly9kb2NzLmZlZG9yYXByb2plY3Qub3JnL2VuLVVT L3Byb2plY3QvY29kZS1vZi1jb25kdWN0LwpMaXN0IEd1aWRlbGluZXM6IGh0dHBzOi8vZmVkb3Jh cHJvamVjdC5vcmcvd2lraS9NYWlsaW5nX2xpc3RfZ3VpZGVsaW5lcwpMaXN0IEFyY2hpdmVzOiBo dHRwczovL2xpc3RzLmZlZG9yYXByb2plY3Qub3JnL2FyY2hpdmVzL2xpc3QvZGV2ZWxAbGlzdHMu ZmVkb3JhcHJvamVjdC5vcmcKRG8gbm90IHJlcGx5IHRvIHNwYW0gb24gdGhlIGxpc3QsIHJlcG9y dCBpdDogaHR0cHM6Ly9wYWd1cmUuaW8vZmVkb3JhLWluZnJhc3RydWN0dXJlCg== --===============9122771494525979162==--
