Re: F35 Change: Make btrfs the default file system for Fedora Cloud (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 9:04 AM Colin Walters <walters@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Fri, May 28, 2021, at 5:43 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
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> > Part of the point of the different working groups was to handle the
> > different use-cases *well* at their own pace. The CoreOS Working Group
> > is *explicitly* excluded and frankly unlikely to ever switch because
> > Colin believes
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> I am not CoreOS, I'm an engineer working on it.
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> > that Btrfs is only suitable for "pet" workloads[1]
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> That's not what my blog said.  One of the sub-headers is "BTRFS is good for "pet" systems".  There's no word "only" there - you inserted that.
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> On this topic though, if Fedora CoreOS didn't exist, this proposal to change Cloud would be significantly more consequential.  The defaults *really matter* here in particular, even more than Workstation.  But, I think because CoreOS does exist, this change matters less.
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> One big advantage CoreOS has is Ignition, which allows provisioning filesystems in the initramfs, including the root partition.  It works today to boot up a stock Fedora CoreOS AMI, OpenStack qcow2 etc. and provide an Ignition config that changes it:

No need for "ignition". This has worked since grub and anaconda were
created by using '%pre' scripts in anaconda to pre-partition the
file-system and potentially insert other pre-configuration steps in
it. If ignition has new integration features rather than the manual
scripting I used to do, great. But ignition is not required for this.
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