On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 9:04 AM Colin Walters <walters@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 28, 2021, at 5:43 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > Part of the point of the different working groups was to handle the > > different use-cases *well* at their own pace. The CoreOS Working Group > > is *explicitly* excluded and frankly unlikely to ever switch because > > Colin believes > > I am not CoreOS, I'm an engineer working on it. > > > that Btrfs is only suitable for "pet" workloads[1] > > That's not what my blog said. One of the sub-headers is "BTRFS is good for "pet" systems". There's no word "only" there - you inserted that. > > On this topic though, if Fedora CoreOS didn't exist, this proposal to change Cloud would be significantly more consequential. The defaults *really matter* here in particular, even more than Workstation. But, I think because CoreOS does exist, this change matters less. > > One big advantage CoreOS has is Ignition, which allows provisioning filesystems in the initramfs, including the root partition. It works today to boot up a stock Fedora CoreOS AMI, OpenStack qcow2 etc. and provide an Ignition config that changes it: No need for "ignition". This has worked since grub and anaconda were created by using '%pre' scripts in anaconda to pre-partition the file-system and potentially insert other pre-configuration steps in it. If ignition has new integration features rather than the manual scripting I used to do, great. But ignition is not required for this. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure