On Fri, May 28, 2021, at 5:43 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > Part of the point of the different working groups was to handle the > different use-cases *well* at their own pace. The CoreOS Working Group > is *explicitly* excluded and frankly unlikely to ever switch because > Colin believes I am not CoreOS, I'm an engineer working on it. > that Btrfs is only suitable for "pet" workloads[1] That's not what my blog said. One of the sub-headers is "BTRFS is good for "pet" systems". There's no word "only" there - you inserted that. On this topic though, if Fedora CoreOS didn't exist, this proposal to change Cloud would be significantly more consequential. The defaults *really matter* here in particular, even more than Workstation. But, I think because CoreOS does exist, this change matters less. One big advantage CoreOS has is Ignition, which allows provisioning filesystems in the initramfs, including the root partition. It works today to boot up a stock Fedora CoreOS AMI, OpenStack qcow2 etc. and provide an Ignition config that changes it: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-coreos/storage/#_reconfiguring_the_root_filesystem And it works to use btrfs too! Just s/ext4/btrfs/ in the first example. (And that *exact same* Ignition config also works for bare metal) That's not true of cloud-init based systems - instead of e.g. you wanted to use xfs/ext4 for a high performance database-like workload, in cloud you'd need to attach a separate instance volume or so for `/var/lib/$whatever` (That said separate volumes can actually be a better approach anyways, it depends). Some traditional Cloud image users won't notice this or care (just like Workstation users) but others definitely will. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
