Re: compat-openssl11 vs openssl1.1

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note that one of the dependencies is gnome-vfs2, itself a dependency
for libgnome, which is a dependency for another dozen packages.

All of them will likely go away because gnome-vfs2 is unlikely to be
changed.

Simo.

On Wed, 2020-09-16 at 12:56 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> Do we need a more involved plan than filing bugs for those packages and
> let them drop if they do not react ?
> 
> I mean they are using very old dependencies, there are probably many
> other ways in which they are broken at this point.
> 
> Simo.
> 
> On Wed, 2020-09-16 at 16:37 +0000, Gwyn Ciesla via devel wrote:
> > I'm the compat-openssl10 owner. I've updated kqoauth-qt5 and sipp,
> > but the rest are more involved. We need a plan for each package to be
> > patched, updated to a version supporting modern openssl, or retired.
> > 
> > 
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> > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 11:32 AM, Simo Sorce <simo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, 2020-09-16 at 14:58 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On 16. 09. 20 14:29, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Indeed compat-openssl10 really should go.
> > > > > If there are still packages depending on it they should be ported or
> > > > > dropped at this point.
> > > > > Openssl1.0.2 is unmaintained upstream and only critical security fixes
> > > > > are done in RHEL. But the team that handles them does not own the
> > > > > Fedora package anymore. OpenSSL 1.0 does not support things lie TLS 1.3
> > > > > or system-wide crypto policies.
> > > > > Frankly at this point it is just a liability to continue offering it.
> > > > > I'll file a bugzilla to ask to retire it from rawhide.
> > > > Even if that's the case we should not just retire packages without coordinating
> > > > with the dependent ones, with an exception of legal requirements.
> > > > There should be a deprecation period, Fedora change or a direct communication
> > > > with the package maintainers of the dependent packages, not a direct retirement.
> > > I am not the package owner, I can only ask if the package owner can do
> > > that.
> > > However this is the list of dependent packages repoquery returns me for
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > Fedora 32:
> > > dmg2img-0:1.6.7-8.fc32.x86_64
> > > freerdp1.2-0:1.2.0-14.fc32.x86_64
> > > gnome-vfs2-0:2.24.4-30.fc32.x86_64
> > > gnome-vfs2-smb-0:2.24.4-30.fc32.x86_64
> > > gq-0:1.3.4-37.fc32.x86_64
> > > httperf-0:0.9.0-25.fc32.x86_64
> > > ipsec-tools-0:0.8.2-17.fc32.x86_64
> > > kqoauth-qt5-0:0.98-0.6.20140122git7c31a12.fc32.x86_64
> > > libwvstreams-0:4.6.1-32.fc32.x86_64
> > > netty-tcnative-0:1.1.30-15.fc32.x86_64
> > > pgadmin3-0:1.22.2-18.fc32.x86_64
> > > sipp-0:3.6.0-3.fc32.x86_64
> > > skipfish-0:2.10-0.22.b.fc32.x86_64
> > > snownews-0:1.5.12-23.fc32.x86_64
> > > sscep-0:0.6.1-10.20160525git2052ee1.fc31.x86_64
> > > sslscan-0:1.11.11-5.fc32.x86_64
> > > stud-0:0.3-18.20120814git.fc32.x86_64
> > > telepathy-salut-0:0.8.1-19.fc32.x86_64
> > > ucommon-0:7.0.0-13.fc32.x86_64
> > > validns-0:0.8-14.fc32.x86_64
> > > vtun-0:3.0.4-10.fc32.x86_64
> > > 
> > > Fedora 33:
> > > dmg2img-0:1.6.7-9.fc33.x86_64
> > > gnome-vfs2-0:2.24.4-32.fc33.x86_64
> > > gnome-vfs2-smb-0:2.24.4-32.fc33.x86_64
> > > gq-0:1.3.4-39.fc33.x86_64
> > > httperf-0:0.9.0-26.fc33.x86_64
> > > kqoauth-qt5-0:0.98-0.7.20140122git7c31a12.fc33.x86_64
> > > libwvstreams-0:4.6.1-33.fc33.x86_64
> > > netty-tcnative-0:1.1.30-17.fc33.x86_64
> > > samdump2-0:3.0.0-19.fc33.x86_64
> > > sipp-0:3.6.0-4.fc33.x86_64
> > > skipfish-0:2.10-0.23.b.fc33.x86_64
> > > snownews-0:1.5.12-24.fc33.x86_64
> > > sslscan-0:1.11.11-6.fc33.x86_64
> > > stud-0:0.3-20.20120814git.fc33.x86_64
> > > telepathy-salut-0:0.8.1-21.fc33.x86_64
> > > ucommon-0:7.0.0-15.fc33.x86_64
> > > validns-0:0.8-14.fc32.x86_64
> > > vtun-0:3.0.4-11.fc33.x86_64
> > > 
> > > It looks like there are a few packages that are not moving as they
> > > should. But I do not think we should support them if they do not move
> > > to on on something as critical as a security dependency, it is symptom
> > > that they may be broken elsewhere too.
> > > 
> > > HTH,
> > > Simo.
> > > 
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > Simo Sorce
> > > RHEL Crypto Team
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