On Mi, 01.07.20 22:10, Neal Gompa (ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > This could still work. But you really shouldn't accept butt-ugliness > from any user-facing technology, even sd-boot. Dude, maybe what is "butt-ugly" and what isn't is in the eye of the beholder, and maybe if you want to spend the day watching at your pretty boot loader then you have a somewhat exotic desire. sd-boot is really designed to stay out of the view as much as possible. It's UI (which was proposed by some GNOME designers back in the day, as mentioned) is supposed to never show except when it really has to. It's not a UI you spend time in. sd-boot is designed so that it passed as much information to the OS about its context, about boot menu items and such as possible, and it takes commands from the OS too. it does this, so that OS UIs (and not boot loader UIs) are the primary way to choose what to boot into. i.e. a pre-boot UI for selecting if you want to boot into Windows, MacOS, or some Linux version is always going to be terrible, and being able to pick where to boot into from the desktop UI is a always a much better UI (with mouse, with touch, with pretty graphics) then the pre-boot UI could ever have. It's a substantially diffrent focus: Grub wants to be an OS itself, have fs drivers, have a UI, have modules, drivers what not. It's Grub in the center of everything, that is in control and decides what to do. sd-boot tries hard to not be all that, it has little UI, has a lot of automatism, little configuration, and a lot of integration, so that you drive it from the OS, and as little possible have to interface with its own UI as you can. If you want to reboot into Windows then you tell sd-boot so when shutting down, i.e. in the OS UI. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Berlin _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
