On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 11:29:13 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > On 30.6.2020 17:49, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:34:27 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > >> Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes > >> it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop supporting > >> booting in legacy bios mode and move to uefi only supported boot which > >> has been available on any common intel based x86 platform since atleast > >> 2005. > > > > This is simply false. I'm currently writing this email on a ThinkPad X200 > > Tablet, which does not support UEFI. I can get dropping x86 support, but > > dropping BIOS boot support? > > Such proposal would never be about stop supporting older hardware that's > just a misconception people are getting > > And it's quite evident by the response here that hw that is atleast 2010 > and older is still quite happily being used and that hw does not support > UEFI and no one is talking about taking that away anytime soon. > > The first step ( The actual change proposal ) would simply be about > replace grub2 with sd-boot for UEFI strictly on the x86 architecture > which has UEFI available and enabled ( is not using legacy bios ) and > see what issue are encountered, solve those then consider moving to > different architectures and further integration if relevant etc. ( baby > steps ) Next I would suggest looking at UEFI supported ARM systems ( but > I personally would have to obtain such hardware before doing so ). > > JBG Why do you prefer sd-boot over GRUB2? I don't understand how you'd boot from an SD card on most x86 hardware. ;) Jokes aside, what's the call for the preference of even more systemd bloat? Do we not have enough yet? -- John M. Harris, Jr. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx