On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 6:34:27 AM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > Given Hans proposal [1] introduced systemd/grub2/Gnome upstream changes > it beg the question if now would not be the time to stop supporting > booting in legacy bios mode and move to uefi only supported boot which > has been available on any common intel based x86 platform since atleast > 2005. This is simply false. I'm currently writing this email on a ThinkPad X200 Tablet, which does not support UEFI. I can get dropping x86 support, but dropping BIOS boot support? > Now in 2017 Intel's technical marketing engineer Brian Richardson > revealed in a presentation that the company will require UEFI Class 3 > and above as in it would remove legacy BIOS support from its client and > datacenter platforms by 2020 and one might expect AMD to follow Intel in > this regard. Good for them. That just means that, on those next-generation systems, once they're out, people will be using UEFI boot. > So Intel platforms produced this year presumably will be unable to run > 32-bit operating systems, unable to use related software (at least > natively), and unable to use older hardware, such as RAID HBAs (and > therefore older hard drives that are connected to those HBAs), network > cards, and even graphics cards that lack UEFI-compatible vBIOS (launched > before 2012 – 2013) etc. What does BIOS boot have to do with 32 bit operating systems? RAID HBAs will also continue to work, though you may not be able to boot from them. Network cards will *also* continue to work, you just might not be able to PXE. > This post is just to gather feed back why Fedora should still continue > to support legacy BIOS boot as opposed to stop supporting it and > potentially drop grub2 and use sd-boot instead. So that people can continue to boot their systems, and so that users and cloud providers can still boot Fedora VMs. Why in the world would GRUB2 be dropped? > Share your thoughts and comments on how such move might affect you so > feedback can be collected for the future on why such a change might be > bad, how it might affect the distribution and scope of such change can > be determined for potential system wide proposal. This would mean that every single one of the systems that I own, every system on Linode, DigitalOcean, and most other cloud providers would cease to be able to boot Fedora. I'm very much against this proposal. -- John M. Harris, Jr. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
