On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 10:57 AM Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 8:16 pm, Paul Frields <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > For a solution to be viable it needs to meet requirements. > > Of course, but the problem is that the requirements identified by CPE > are wildly inconsistent with the actual requirements of the Fedora > community. The Pagure we have right now seems to be working fine for > Fedora. All we really need is occasional light maintenance and ensuring > the infrastructure keeps running. For what it's worth, I think some of the problem here is that I don't see many avenues for the Fedora community to take an active part in the infrastructure. In the openSUSE Project, I'm involved in the openSUSE Heroes team, and with that, I actually *do* have the opportunity to actively assist with the deployment, management, and basic maintenance of solutions used by the openSUSE Project. The Fedora equivalent team doesn't exist. There is the releng and infrastructure teams, but those are gradually being absorbed by the Red Hat CPE team, and as indicated earlier somewhere, CPE team is not a community team. The codebases and effort involved when not being able to share it with the community is high. Of course, as long as Fedora is using FOSS solutions that have low barriers to entry for contributors (like Pagure, Noggin, Ipsilon, Fedocal, fedora-packages, anitya, nuancier, etc.) and those projects are advertised as ways to contribute to the Fedora Project, then a good chunk of the burden on the CPE team can probably be lowered organically. As I said in my original email, Fedora needs to be a better steward and umbrella organization. By doing so, we can support our enthusiastic contributors and make for a stronger community. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
