Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

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On Sat, 2019-12-07 at 10:46 -0700, Jerry James wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 9:50 AM Fabio Valentini <decathorpe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > I'm curious about this. I do get email notifications for all changes and
> > comments for all my own bodhi updates plus for every update that I
> > commented on. Have you turned this off, or do you mean to say you're going
> > to ignore bodhi emails?
> > 
> 
> Speaking only for myself, yes I ignore bodhi emails.  Why?  I get huge
> amounts of email, so I've developed some survival strategies.  One of them
> is to ignore sources of noise.  Bodhi emails are mostly noise.  Almost
> always, when bodhi sends me email, the email tells me something I already
> know.

This part I agree with, actually - I don't monitor my Bodhi mail as
closely as I should because of this issue.

For example, take this update:

https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-81bcdfa3d5

Basically nothing of interest happened in its lifecycle. I created it,
it got pushed to updates-testing, it reached the time threshold for
being pushed stable, it was pushed stable. For that I get *five* emails
notifying me of comments from bodhi itself:

1. "This update has been submitted for testing by adamwill." (yes, I
know, that's *me*, I just *did* it)

2. "This update has been pushed to testing." (this is hardly news: it
happens every time. Do I need an email to tell me about it?)

3. "This update can be pushed to stable now if the maintainer wishes"
(maybe useful if I *don't* have autopush-for-time turned on, but is it
any use if I *do*?)

4. "This update has been submitted for stable by bodhi." (obviously
this arrived at exactly the same time as #3; there's really no need for
both)

5. "This update has been pushed to stable." (again, this is hardly
unexpected, do I really need yet another email to tell me?)

Now, considering a fairly common workflow is to submit updates for
multiple releases at a time - up to 6, if we have two stable releases,
Branched, and you're submitted to three EPEL branches - this gets
pretty silly: for 6 branches, I'm guaranteed to get *30* emails. Thus
my Bodhi mail folder is a disaster area and I generally don't notice
*interesting* things sent there, instead I spot them when I happen to
go to the Bodhi web UI and look at updates there.

Now, I could I guess do some fancy filtering for this client side; I
could just try and filter out every mail that's only telling me about a
comment from "bodhi" (although this isn't that easy because there is no
convenient header to tell me this, it would have to be done by parsing
the message content). But it might be nicer/more efficient to have some
simple server-side choices here, like "don't send me mails for bodhi
telling me about perfectly normal things happening", or something like
that...

>   A build finished.  Yes, I know.  I saw the "fedpkg build" command
> complete.

Nit: Bodhi would not send you an email for this, because Bodhi has
nothing to do with builds, only updates. At this point no update exists
and there's nothing Bodhi could possibly email you about.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net
http://www.happyassassin.net
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