On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 12:17 PM John M. Harris Jr <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Monday, November 18, 2019 3:42:20 AM MST Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > IMHO effort spent on maintenance of most of these ursine Java packages > > is mostly wasted effort. As I said before, many times, these packages > > should be retired and replaced by modular packages, which are > > maintained by Java SIG members like me. maven and ant modules are > > already default streams, so users should get them instead of ursine > > packages. The last remaining step is enabling javapackages-tools in > > ursine buildroot so that ursine packages can be built with modular > > maven. Once that happens, there will be no reason to maintain ursine. > > Therefore, instead of putting time on updating ursine Maven et al. > > I recommend to put effort towards enabling modules in ursine buildroots. > > Why in the world do you want to move even more to modules? Not move more to modules, but to reduce duplication by putting module into buildroot and retiring corresponding ursine packages. > > That is not true. It is entirely possible and feasible to build a > > distribution without ursine Maven/XMvn etc. For example look at > > RHEL 8 - it includes Maven and Ant only as modules. Modules are > > used to build ursine Java packages. The same solution should be > > implemented in Fedora. > > I must disagree. That it "works" in RHEL doesn't mean that it should be done > in Fedora. The current situation in Fedora, where maven and ant have been > "moved" to modules has screwed over the Eclipse packagers, for example, and > more are to follow. That was not what I said. I made a point that it is not necessary to indefinitely maintain ursine Maven because modular Maven can be used to build ursine packages. I used RHEL as a proof that this is doable. -- Mikolaj Izdebski _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
