On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 5:10 PM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 12. 11. 19 17:02, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: > > Again, no one forces you or any other packager to use modularity > > tooling right now. > > > > As Fedora developer you have a choice to join the effort, bring your > > input and use cases, try and test (and revert if it doesn't work) or > > you can stay away from it and keep using same tools as before. > > > Unfortunately, this is not true. It is not possible to ignore modularity, if the > dependencies are modularized. It is not possible to ignore modularity, if the > dependents are modularized. It is not possible to ignore modularity, if the > packages I wish to use are modularized. > > I wish Fedora packagers and users cold "stay away". But that is currently not > possible. My proposal to keep all defaults as non-modular packages would make it > exactly so. Ursa Prime effort achieves the same goal. It removes the "viral" part of Modularity I think. As well as policy which restricts the set of default modules, which I think we need to change from "FESCo approves new default modules" to "each request for new default module should be treated as a System-Wide Change". Again I fail to see the _technical_ difference between the ursine rpm package and a package which was built as a part of default stream. It is the same rpm spec from the same dist-git sources, which is built by the same rpmbuild command. Thus I think it is a process/policy difference, which we should resolve. And I will support a hard block on creating new default streams, until it is resolved. (With the exception of eclipse probably, which is in a broken state already, and for which we need to find a solution.) -- Aleksandra Fedorova bookwar _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
