Re: Modularity and all the things

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On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 2:15 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 01:08:23PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > I think I mentioned that it would be possible, as OpenPKG actually
> > worked this way.
> >
> > The key for this would be improving the user-experience with
> > interacting with source RPMs and spec files with DNF. We've optimized
> > *heavily* for remote builds, but a good chunk of how Gentoo's
> > mechanism works is built around supporting local permutations. We just
> > don't have that fleshed out yet.
>
> Well, exactly. This is what I meant with my short "who is going to do that
> work?" comment. Gentoo's solution is not a drop-in thing for Fedora and
> would require changes to RPM, DNF, and the *significant* work of figuring
> out what all this would mean in a binary-focused distribution. We'd
> certainly need a whole *new* MBS equivalent, and there's surely a ton of
> "unknown unknowns" lurking as well.
>

Yeah, the reason OpenPKG was able to do this is because their flavor
of RPM had specific enhancements for it:
* Macros used in the spec had their definitions embedded into the SRPM
* Generated package names and provides were discoverable from the spec and SRPMs
* The dependency resolver could "install" source packages, build them,
install the artifacts, and keep going

> And then all of that would get us to... sort of where we are now? Basically
> the same thing as with Modularity's "virtual repositories" approach with
> different tradeoffs?
>

I think we'd have an easier time if modularity was merely just virtual
repositories. As it stands, it has a lot more, which has a lot of
interesting consequences...


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