On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:38:12 +0100, you wrote: >I understand this argument, but I think more and more desktop users >are being trained that updates happen on a schedule they didn't choose >and are hard to avoid. This is how most mobile operating systems >function. iOS prompts you for the yearly updates, and it can be avoided if you really want. macOS requires you to specifically choose the yearly update, though they may have changed with Mojave. Not sure about Android, but the fact that Google has had to twist things into a knot to try and get updates out to users indicates that upgrades to Android aren't being pushed out for the most part. Windows is the only one forcing upgrades, and it is perhaps one of the reasons that hardware vendors are showing more interest in Linux as people are now more willing to consider anything other than Windows. Really, the only place where forced upgrades are happening, are accepted, and seem to actually work are on the application side and that is because, demonstrated by the web browsers, frequent updates can be done unobtrusively and reliably. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx