On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 06:12:11 +0100, you wrote: >We, as a distro, just take a different approach. >To be bleeding edge requires to have releases often. Such a bleeding edge distro that it took 4 years for Swift to arrive, or still trying to get rid of Python 2. Regardless of what we think Fedora is or isn't, a look outside of Fedora shows an overall Linux community that appears to be increasingly ignoring Fedora. Part of this discussion needs to be around the combined issues of getting more maintainers and getting more users. My feeling is part of the solution is to move to a yearly release cycle. Unlike the early days of Fedora things just aren't changing as quick in terms of the base of the OS - hardware support in the kernel is generally excellent, and both Gnome and KDE (and likely the others) are mature environments that while they improve with each release there isn't generally anything that says a 6 month wait would be unbearable - and consideration should also be done to the track record that given the overall stability of those desktops that upgrades can likely be done safely mid-Fedora-release. So perhaps then you go with 2 effective releases of Fedora - a one year release, and a 3 year release. You get the benefits for those that need it of a LTS style product, reduce the upgrade churn that is putting off some prospective users. Won't satisfy everyone but it may be an improvement. Anything that really can't wait for a next release could be temporarily thrown into COPR, with perhaps a feature that at the next major release the COPR repository automatically gets removed as the package is now available from the main Fedora repository. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx