On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:37:46PM -0500, John Florian wrote: > On 11/14/18 10:36 AM, mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > >We need to rebase GNOME within about two months of the new > >upstream releases, or we'll lose our edge with the GNOME > >community. We'd be ceding our position as best GNOME distro to > >Ubuntu and Arch. > > It seems wrong that a DE, even if it's the default, has so much sway > over the distro as a whole. It's not just gnome. It's also gcc, glibc, boost, systemd, python, and any other project which cannot be upgraded easily mid-cycle. Having a chance to push a new version every six months is much better than waiting a year. > >So a one-year cycle means a major GNOME version update will need > >to land in the middle of a release to avoid that. And these do not > >have a good reputation for stability. Basically we'll wind up with > >a bunch of bugs landing halfway through the release, and without > >the usual Fedora QA process to ensure the most important of them > >get fixed before they reach users. > > Why can't GNOME be updated mid-release like any other application? > Why does the QA process require the cadence of the whole distro > release process to bend to GNOME? Can't a major GNOME update land > in the testing repos to have QA issues sorted out there just as well > as in some alpha/beta release of the overall Fedora? For me, any discussions about .1 or .5 completely miss the point. The numbering does not matter at all, the freeze and the testing and bugfixing matters. If we do it every 6 months, we might just as well call this a new release each time. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, we have plenty of technical issues to solve, including security bugs and whatnot. Let's not get distracted by numbering. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
