Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

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On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 11:11:59AM -0700, Ken Dreyer wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:37 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > But there are some good cases for a longer lifecycle. For one thing,
> > this has been a really big blocker for getting Fedora shipped on
> > hardware.
> 
> This is an interesting topic to me because I recently toured the
> System76 factory here in Denver. They are engineering their own
> operating system (Pop!_OS) on top of Ubuntu, and I would love to see
> Fedora become more viable as a base in these types of situations.
> 
> We have a lot of data stored in Bodhi. I've wondered about mining the
> security update data in particular to discover:
> 
> A) How many security updates that we push that would have affected
> older versions of Fedora, over time? In other words, based on the
> Fedora 28 data, how many security updates does Fedora 27 lack 3 months
> past its EOL? 6 months? 12 months? That would give a rough scope of
> the security situation and level of effort.

The answer is "a lot". I don't think we have any hard numbers, but
see https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1935. Generally, it seems we can't
process the CVEs we get now.

"This result was limited to 1000 bugs." → that's just for CVEs.

> B) Is it possible to "mock rebuild" those security updates' SRPMs for
> the EOL Fedora releases? How much harder does it get over time? This
> could be a semi-automated way to experiment with extending the
> lifecycle of older Fedoras.
> 
> Obviously this is not perfect, but I imagine that solely focusing on
> security updates could help extend the lifecycle from 13 months to
> maybe 25 months.

Zbyszek
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