Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

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On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 3:58 PM stan <stanl-fedorauser@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 08:58:57 -0700
> "Gerald B. Cox" <gbcox@xxxxxx> wrote:
> > Software is a tool for me.  I don't get emotionally attached to it -
> > as some people apparently are.  It's a bit telling that
> > many people seem to be afraid that Discourse will be a success.
>
> It isn't free for people who have already a good working system to
> adopt Discourse.  They have to invest time and effort in learning,
> adapting, and helping fix the new system.  What's in it for them?  I've
> had this happen to me in the past, but I was paid by my employer for
> the time and effort.
>
> You aren't really selling Discourse, so much as trying to bludgeon
> people into going along with your opinion.  Anyone who's been around
> the block a few times knows that there are lots of fads with fabulous
> press that don't pan out.

Indeed-- this thread feels like it has deteriorated into pro-Discourse
and pro-email people sniping at each other. I am not sure how useful
continuing to say things like "And if this conversation were in
Discourse..." or "perhaps Discourse could help with that" really is
when trying to convince people who don't agree with you.

I don't know that I feel strongly one way or the other about Discourse
vs. email. What I do feel strongly about, as I wrote much earlier in
the thread, is that any plan to move something as important to the
project as email to a new system really needs to be carefully
considered. And part of that careful consideration needs to be an
honest assessment of what the negative consequences are likely to be.
I suspect the negative consequences (as many have already said) are
that it won't be possible to use Discourse as a drop-in replacement
for these mailing lists, which will break the workflows of numerous
current contributors, causing them to become less involved in
discussions and perhaps the project altogether.

It is a bit disheartening that some of those advocating the change
seem unwilling to acknowledge this, or have dismissed it as people who
aren't willing to move with the times, or as just "hyperbole".

Ben Rosser
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