On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, Matthew Miller wrote: >> Neal Gompa: >> because you're dead set on this anyway. > Matt Miller: > I ... don't know how to engage constructively with this accusation, because > it it seems to come from absolutely nowhere. Yes, we're *definitely* trying This seems very tone deaf and lacking in introspection, Matt perhaps by reading the subject line you chose to start this thread with No mention of trying out, no mention of a trial. Just the usual 'this is a done deal' announcement on an extremely high volume mailing list I had trialled Discourse six months ago, leaving it on for days at a time. The web client had a leak down in it somewhere, My baseline load average went up and I ended up with a frozen web browser once all free ram and swap was exhausted. Migrate or not as you wish, it will simply be another place where Fedoraproject went off the tracks, chasing a mythical low involvement 'tire kicker' instead of supporting developers using mature tools and technologies (mailing lists, bugzilla, procmail sorting, mutt or alpine) The non-migratation capabilities of early MM3 efforts have been detailed earlier in this thread. Hyperkitty pretends a 33 character hash conveys more information than the MM2 model for pipermail, or say: YYYYMMDD-NNNN, but no-one was willing to critique a bad choice Pagure is great and all, but I recall filing a bug ... somewhere ... pagure, git, how knows ... about a cross-site inter-panel info leak, but there is no SPOT -- single point of truth -- in Fedora's hall of mirrors to find it later ad hoc. That does not happen with Bugzilla as I have a portfolio of several dozen custom searches that would reveal it to me with a couple clicks But charging off to a new shiny hill seems more important to Fedoraproject ** shrug ** -- Russ herrold _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx