Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, Matthew Miller wrote:

>> Neal Gompa: 
>> because you're dead set on this anyway.

> Matt Miller:
> I ... don't know how to engage constructively with this accusation, because
> it it seems to come from absolutely nowhere. Yes, we're *definitely* trying

This seems very tone deaf and lacking in introspection, Matt

perhaps by reading the subject line you chose to start this 
thread with

No mention of trying out, no mention of a trial.  Just the 
usual 'this is a done deal' announcement on an extremely high 
volume mailing list

I had trialled Discourse six months ago, leaving it on for 
days at a time.  The web client had a leak down in it 
somewhere, My baseline load average went up and I ended up 
with a frozen web browser once all free ram and swap was 
exhausted.  Migrate or not as you wish, it will simply be 
another place where Fedoraproject went off the tracks, chasing 
a mythical low involvement 'tire kicker' instead of supporting 
developers using mature tools and technologies (mailing lists, 
bugzilla, procmail sorting, mutt or alpine)


The non-migratation capabilities of early MM3 efforts have 
been detailed earlier in this thread.  Hyperkitty pretends a 
33 character hash conveys more information than the MM2 model 
for pipermail, or say: YYYYMMDD-NNNN, but no-one was willing 
to critique a bad choice

Pagure is great and all, but I recall filing a bug ... 
somewhere ... pagure, git, how knows ... about a cross-site 
inter-panel info leak, but there is no SPOT -- single point of 
truth -- in Fedora's hall of mirrors to find it later ad hoc.  
That does not happen with Bugzilla as I have a portfolio of 
several dozen custom searches that would reveal it to me with 
a couple clicks

But charging off to a new shiny hill seems more important to 
Fedoraproject

** shrug **

-- Russ herrold
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