On Thu, 2018-06-21 at 10:18 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 10:07 AM, Adam Williamson < > adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2018-06-21 at 09:46 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > Interesting... thanks Adam... but the way I read that is specifically > > > tailored to "release criteria", not > > > design/implementation guidelines - i.e. to me this says, don't hold up a > > > release because someone > > > screwed up and didn't conditionalize the process correctly. > > > > I think you're being a *bit* harsh, here, btw, constantly talking about > > how people are "screwing up". Conditionalized services are kind of an > > advanced systemd feature and many people probably don't know about them > > at all, and as we're discussing here, we *don't* actually have any > > requirement that services be conditionalized in this way. I don't think > > it's really fair to see this as packagers doing something horribly > > wrong and bad. (Also note that it's not at all straightforward to > > conditionalize some of these things in a reliable way - it seems > > Lennart had to add a new feature to systemd to aid in conditionalizing > > the secure boot-related service, and I don't think it'll be > > particularly straightforward to find a correct conditionalization for > > the rngd case either). It's just a situation we've identified where we > > could possibly improve things. > > > > First of all, I'm not "constantly talking" about how people are "screwing > > up". I made that comment in one email. > Second, if you're going to maintain something, maintain it. If you don't > do something properly, or optimally... own it > and don't make excuses. Learn to accept constructive criticism instead of > parsing someone's statements > searching for reasons to feign insult for use as a deflective excuse. I don't maintain any of these services, so your criticism is neither constructive nor accurate. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/VKHATZU52JA2ZIMNJVXGIOVEQZAVVTWY/
