On Thu, 2018-06-21 at 19:27 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Do, 21.06.18 10:07, Adam Williamson (adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > On Thu, 2018-06-21 at 09:46 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > Interesting... thanks Adam... but the way I read that is specifically > > > tailored to "release criteria", not > > > design/implementation guidelines - i.e. to me this says, don't hold up a > > > release because someone > > > screwed up and didn't conditionalize the process correctly. > > > > I think you're being a *bit* harsh, here, btw, constantly talking about > > how people are "screwing up". Conditionalized services are kind of an > > advanced systemd feature and many people probably don't know about them > > at all, and as we're discussing here, we *don't* actually have any > > requirement that services be conditionalized in this way. I don't think > > it's really fair to see this as packagers doing something horribly > > wrong and bad. (Also note that it's not at all straightforward to > > conditionalize some of these things in a reliable way - it seems > > Lennart had to add a new feature to systemd to aid in conditionalizing > > the secure boot-related service, and I don't think it'll be > > particularly straightforward to find a correct conditionalization for > > the rngd case either). It's just a situation we've identified where we > > could possibly improve things. > > Just out of curiosity: when precisely is rngd supposed to be used? As > soon as there's a hardware RNG device /dev/hwrng? That should be > easy enough: ConditionFileExists=/dev/hwrng... Or are there other > cases when this is supposed to be start? See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1490632#c42 . > (Also, why is there a userspace component for this stuff in the first > place? I mean streaming data from one corner of the kernel to another > corner of the kernel is something probably better done inside of the > kernel instead of involving userspace at all with this...) That, I don't know, and I'd sort of wondered the same. Don't know who can enlighten us as to the answer. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/MDSAU3FGMEY4MM6BYIPQI4EHSIS77LNT/
