On Thu, 2018-06-21 at 09:46 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Interesting... thanks Adam... but the way I read that is specifically > tailored to "release criteria", not > design/implementation guidelines - i.e. to me this says, don't hold up a > release because someone > screwed up and didn't conditionalize the process correctly. I think you're being a *bit* harsh, here, btw, constantly talking about how people are "screwing up". Conditionalized services are kind of an advanced systemd feature and many people probably don't know about them at all, and as we're discussing here, we *don't* actually have any requirement that services be conditionalized in this way. I don't think it's really fair to see this as packagers doing something horribly wrong and bad. (Also note that it's not at all straightforward to conditionalize some of these things in a reliable way - it seems Lennart had to add a new feature to systemd to aid in conditionalizing the secure boot-related service, and I don't think it'll be particularly straightforward to find a correct conditionalization for the rngd case either). It's just a situation we've identified where we could possibly improve things. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/C52WF2MAKL4WNVT3ZKIAIGCDIBPEWFKI/