On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 10:07 AM, Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 2018-06-21 at 09:46 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> Interesting... thanks Adam... but the way I read that is specifically
> tailored to "release criteria", not
> design/implementation guidelines - i.e. to me this says, don't hold up a
> release because someone
> screwed up and didn't conditionalize the process correctly.
I think you're being a *bit* harsh, here, btw, constantly talking about
how people are "screwing up". Conditionalized services are kind of an
advanced systemd feature and many people probably don't know about them
at all, and as we're discussing here, we *don't* actually have any
requirement that services be conditionalized in this way. I don't think
it's really fair to see this as packagers doing something horribly
wrong and bad. (Also note that it's not at all straightforward to
conditionalize some of these things in a reliable way - it seems
Lennart had to add a new feature to systemd to aid in conditionalizing
the secure boot-related service, and I don't think it'll be
particularly straightforward to find a correct conditionalization for
the rngd case either). It's just a situation we've identified where we
could possibly improve things.
First of all, I'm not "constantly talking" about how people are "screwing up". I made that comment in one email.
Second, if you're going to maintain something, maintain it. If you don't do something properly, or optimally... own it
and don't make excuses. Learn to accept constructive criticism instead of parsing someone's statements
searching for reasons to feign insult for use as a deflective excuse.
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