Dne 31.5.2018 v 21:36 Jason L Tibbitts III napsal(a): >>>>>> "JF" == John Florian <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > JF> Does Fedora really have that large of non-technical audience? > > It's an interesting question, but it seems to me that the answer doesn't > really matter. If they're non-technical, the assumption is that they > don't want to see the stuff and indeed, what we should be going for is a > completely smooth transition between the BIOS logo and the login screen, > with no flashing back to text mode. I am pretty sure that's the end > goal here and hiding the grub menu by default is just a step in that > direction. > > If a user is technical, and our documentation is reasonably good, then > they should be able to achieve the level of verbosity they want. > > So in the end, it doesn't seem to matter much how technical the audience > is. What appear to matter most is how much fuss people will make about > having to adapt to (and, if they want, revert) a changed default. It is irony, that people, who are capable to get into the grub menu if they need, complain about it being hidden. So to say, I am 100% for hiding the grub menu, speeding up the boot process, and if need it, I'll find a way to get it. Vít > > Personally, I don't much care either way because I already have to > configure systems to get rid of the annoying and useless (in my > environment) grub menu. So for me it would just be one task I can > remove from my ansible playbooks. But if we always have that menu > appearing then there won't be much impetus to get that nice, smooth boot > experience because nobody who takes the defaults will see it. And yes, > such things do matter to some people. > > - J< > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/AC34RG5OGEHXWBMXP5PZHFLCAXJAZK4F/ _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/J5FE24GP375ZNMSO7VT252DBJ6TXL564/