Re: F29 System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu

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Dne 31.5.2018 v 21:36 Jason L Tibbitts III napsal(a):
>>>>>> "JF" == John Florian <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> JF> Does Fedora really have that large of non-technical audience?
>
> It's an interesting question, but it seems to me that the answer doesn't
> really matter.  If they're non-technical, the assumption is that they
> don't want to see the stuff and indeed, what we should be going for is a
> completely smooth transition between the BIOS logo and the login screen,
> with no flashing back to text mode.  I am pretty sure that's the end
> goal here and hiding the grub menu by default is just a step in that
> direction.
>
> If a user is technical, and our documentation is reasonably good, then
> they should be able to achieve the level of verbosity they want.
>
> So in the end, it doesn't seem to matter much how technical the audience
> is.  What appear to matter most is how much fuss people will make about
> having to adapt to (and, if they want, revert) a changed default.

It is irony, that people, who are capable to get into the grub menu if
they need, complain about it being hidden. So to say, I am 100% for
hiding the grub menu, speeding up the boot process, and if need it, I'll
find a way to get it.

Vít


>
> Personally, I don't much care either way because I already have to
> configure systems to get rid of the annoying and useless (in my
> environment) grub menu.  So for me it would just be one task I can
> remove from my ansible playbooks.  But if we always have that menu
> appearing then there won't be much impetus to get that nice, smooth boot
> experience because nobody who takes the defaults will see it.  And yes,
> such things do matter to some people.
>
>  - J<
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