On 05/31/2018 06:43 AM, Jan Kurik wrote:
= Proposed System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/HiddenGrubMenu Owner(s): * Hans de Goede <hdegoede at redhat dot com> On systems with only a single OS installed, the grub menu does not offer any useful functionality, so we should hide it by default.
I really dislike these kind of changes. Does Fedora really have that large of non-technical audience? I'm perfectly capable of undoing this on a normal install that I use. I still prefer the plymouth-details theme for example. I also add more grub time to allow me time to react (and my slow USB keyboard to become ready) -- if I have to wait several minutes for a POST, shaving a second or two only to miss a prompt just plain sucks. I really don't see the value in hiding so many things that might be useful when crap hits the fan.
I'm particularly grumpy right now after sitting under said fan as I spent over 2 weeks trying to get F28 installed on a new very nice Dell Precision 5820 workstation with dual 256GB NVMe drives that has defied all reasonable logic. Same ISO (KDE live) put on CFast via USB installs fine, never succeeds in booting vs. ancient spinning photons works nearly every time. Why 2 weeks? Oh, just trying every reasonable (and eventually the unreasonable) choice in the BIOS and kernel cmd-line options. Normally Fedora is quite smooth, but 28 plus this particular hardware proved a nightmare. I continued torturing myself even after I had success in hopes of making a decent bug report, but, as mentioned, it defied all logic. And all that time, these kind of "hide the geeky stuff" did nothing but hinder my efforts.
If we really must go down this road further, it be nice to see it done in a more dynamic way. E.g., booting the same kernel and initramfs as the last time and that worked so this time we can be "pretty" and "faster". Something changed or this is a new install? Let's be a little more verbose and helpful until it's known good.
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