On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 17:38 -0500, Thomas Fitzsimmons wrote: >On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 16:37 -0500, Elliot Lee wrote: >>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, Andrew Overholt wrote: >> >>> > Nothing is set in stone, but if you want to write in favor of keeping >>> > something, you'll have to suggest something else of equal or greater size >>> > to axe instead. >>> >>> I'm sorry, but I think this is silly and leads to finger-pointing. >>> Just because I work on and use Eclipse and lots of the Java-related >>> stuff doesn't mean that others don't see other things as being just as >>> useful. >>> >>> My only other comments are the following: >>> >>> . there is a very active and vibrant "open source/free java" community >>> . having these in Core brings in a large segment of Java users who would >>> normally just download the non-free JVMs >>> . Eclipse is a well-supported upstream project >>> . we have people within RH working on all of this >> >>I agree 100%, and I for one want Java to become much more widely used. At >>the same time, we need to stick with a hard constraint of 4 CD's for >>Fedora Core, and that means cutting out /something/. >> > >Where does this hard constraint come from? > Sorry, hadn't read the rest of the thread. I saw Elliot's reasoning and Alexandre's responses -- where he made all the arguments I was going to make :) Tom
