On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, Andrew Overholt wrote: > > Nothing is set in stone, but if you want to write in favor of keeping > > something, you'll have to suggest something else of equal or greater size > > to axe instead. > > I'm sorry, but I think this is silly and leads to finger-pointing. > Just because I work on and use Eclipse and lots of the Java-related > stuff doesn't mean that others don't see other things as being just as > useful. > > My only other comments are the following: > > . there is a very active and vibrant "open source/free java" community > . having these in Core brings in a large segment of Java users who would > normally just download the non-free JVMs > . Eclipse is a well-supported upstream project > . we have people within RH working on all of this I agree 100%, and I for one want Java to become much more widely used. At the same time, we need to stick with a hard constraint of 4 CD's for Fedora Core, and that means cutting out /something/. Best, -- Elliot