* Elliot Lee <sopwith@xxxxxxxxxx> [2005-02-21 15:36]: > > Right now eclipse, xfce, xemacs, cfengine, and all the games are leading > candidates. We also may try to start removing stuff from Core in hopes > that it will appear in Extras if someone cares about it. If Eclipse goes then so does all of the Java stuff since Eclipse is our bytecode compiler. > Nothing is set in stone, but if you want to write in favor of keeping > something, you'll have to suggest something else of equal or greater size > to axe instead. I'm sorry, but I think this is silly and leads to finger-pointing. Just because I work on and use Eclipse and lots of the Java-related stuff doesn't mean that others don't see other things as being just as useful. My only other comments are the following: . there is a very active and vibrant "open source/free java" community . having these in Core brings in a large segment of Java users who would normally just download the non-free JVMs . Eclipse is a well-supported upstream project . we have people within RH working on all of this Andrew "I'm sure I've violated trademarks with my use of the j-word" Overholt