On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 16:37 -0500, Elliot Lee wrote: >On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, Andrew Overholt wrote: > >> > Nothing is set in stone, but if you want to write in favor of keeping >> > something, you'll have to suggest something else of equal or greater size >> > to axe instead. >> >> I'm sorry, but I think this is silly and leads to finger-pointing. >> Just because I work on and use Eclipse and lots of the Java-related >> stuff doesn't mean that others don't see other things as being just as >> useful. >> >> My only other comments are the following: >> >> . there is a very active and vibrant "open source/free java" community >> . having these in Core brings in a large segment of Java users who would >> normally just download the non-free JVMs >> . Eclipse is a well-supported upstream project >> . we have people within RH working on all of this > >I agree 100%, and I for one want Java to become much more widely used. At >the same time, we need to stick with a hard constraint of 4 CD's for >Fedora Core, and that means cutting out /something/. > Where does this hard constraint come from? Tom