On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > The use case is that for simple packages, it's simpler for the user > if the service is available immediately. My initial example with gpm > is actually good here: do "sudo dnf install -y gpm", move mouse, voilà. > Also the case from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1545027: > a user installs some daemon for smartcards, and expects it to be > functional without rebooting. pcsc-lite is an example with a poor history set of interaction with the systemd and itself in a 'no card present' state I've been bitten by that Heisenbug before [1], and was basically told to put black tape over the warning light on the dashboard -- Russ herrold 1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1046685 _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx