Hi all, I'm a bit surprised that there's no reply to this fairly explosive idea. Maybe Nikos' text is too long, so let me summarize: tl;dr: the proposal is to start services immediately during installation (in %post), iff they are enabled in presets and the system is live (not a chroot or such). This would mean that e.g. after 'dnf install gpm' gpm would be running when dnf exits. Zbyszek On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 04:13:51PM +0200, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > In [0] it was reported that after installation of pcsc-lite in Fedora, > no smart cards were functioning at the system. After rebooting Fedora > everything was functioning as expected. > > The issue is that the pcsc daemon uses a socket-activated unit > which is installed by dnf, but not started (and hence the windows- > reminding behavior). > > The text on our default services [1] mentions that a service is > "enabled by default on package installation" though there is a > distinction between 'enable' and 'start'. > > The reason behind that is probably summarized in [2]: > > Why don't we start the service after installation? > > Installations can be in changeroots, in an installer context, or > > in other situations where you don't want the services started. > > which is understandable, but does not necessarily lead to good user > experience in Fedora. Zbigniew made a good summary of what needs to be > done for that to work [3]. > > What do you think overall, is that something that makes sense to > address in general, or in socket activated services only, or not at > all? > > regards, > Nikos > > [0]. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1545027 > > [1]. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:DefaultServices > > [2]. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL:SysVInitScripts?rd=Packaging:S > ysVInitScript#Why_don.27t_we > > [3]. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1545027#c29 > > _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
