On 04/16/2018 10:41 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm a bit surprised that there's no reply to this fairly explosive > idea. Maybe Nikos' text is too long, so let me summarize: Well, I marked it to reply to, but just hadn't gotten to it yet. ;) Not everyone can immediately answer list posts. :) So, as it is mentioned downthread the problems I see with this is: a) making sure we reliably detect if we are in a live system or not and b) services that have assumed our current behavior and are not useful, or are even insecure when started by default. I think a is solveable if it already hasn't been... For b, we will want to have a long ramp (so perhaps make this a 29 or even a f30 change) and just fix up these things that have problems starting / being usable / being secure when started right after install. I can see this being helpfull in some cases for sure. kevin
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