On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 09:44:45AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Di, 17.04.18 05:41, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm a bit surprised that there's no reply to this fairly explosive > > idea. Maybe Nikos' text is too long, so let me summarize: > > > > tl;dr: the proposal is to start services immediately during > > installation (in %post), iff they are enabled in presets and the > > system is live (not a chroot or such). > > > > This would mean that e.g. after 'dnf install gpm' gpm would be running > > when dnf exits. > > Hmm. While many services make a ton of sense to just be started on > install, for others this doesn't really apply... i.e. starting the > smartcard stuff or gpm right-away makes sense, since they work > out-of-the-box in a sensible, comprehensive way. This is very > different for server stuff like httpd however, which is only vaguely > useful unless configured by the admin to serve the data it's supposed > to serve... Hence I am pretty sure there needs to some per-case > deliberation in place. > > That said, maybe Fedora's service preset files these days are > carefully enough written and already formalize such deliberation? Pfff. Yes they are. See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:DefaultServices. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx