On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 7:34 AM, James Hogarth <james.hogarth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 19 January 2018 at 11:44, Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:48:52AM +0100, Thomas Haller wrote: >>> When you say "Core" group, what are the practical effects of removing >>> it? You can uninstall NetworkManager on Fedora today. Do you mean, it >>> should not be installed by default? But you need a way to connect to >>> the network on a newly installed system, if only to download networkd. >>> Would you then install networkd by default? >> >> The trouble is that systemd-networkd and other components of systemd >> which are currently not used by default are always installed. It's all >> in the systemd package. If it was split into subpackages and installed >> services could be easily deduplicated, maybe people would have a >> different opinion on what should be or not be installed by default. >> >> > > Hmm in the RHEL world systemd-networkd is its own package and split > out from the main systemd package ... I imagine this is mainly because > it is in the "extras" repo and consequently gets a different level of > support. > > There might be a use case for splitting it out in fedora that I'd be > interested in hearing, but I'm not sure what the real gains would be. > > Certainly an RFE bug against systemd asking for it to be split out > might get a response and a reasoning. > > At a quick look at rpm -ql systemd as a default we don't use resolved, > networkd or timesyncd in Fedora ... how much actual benefit versus > cost is there in splitting those out? The current split was worked out based on minimizing external dependencies for the main "systemd" package. If I remember correctly, the rationale for leaving those in the main package was that they don't really impose bigger dependencies that you wouldn't already need in the core system for something else. They *are* disabled by default through our preset in fedora-release, though. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
