Re: Proposal to remove NetworkManager from Core group

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On 19 January 2018 at 11:44, Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:48:52AM +0100, Thomas Haller wrote:
>> When you say "Core" group, what are the practical effects of removing
>> it? You can uninstall NetworkManager on Fedora today. Do you mean, it
>> should not be installed by default? But you need a way to connect to
>> the network on a newly installed system, if only to download networkd.
>> Would you then install networkd by default?
>
> The trouble is that systemd-networkd and other components of systemd
> which are currently not used by default are always installed. It's all
> in the systemd package. If it was split into subpackages and installed
> services could be easily deduplicated, maybe people would have a
> different opinion on what should be or not be installed by default.
>
>

Hmm in the RHEL world systemd-networkd is its own package and split
out from the main systemd package ... I imagine this is mainly because
it is in the "extras" repo and consequently gets a different level of
support.

There might be a use case for splitting it out in fedora that I'd be
interested in hearing, but I'm not sure what the real gains would be.

Certainly an RFE bug against systemd asking for it to be split out
might get a response and a reasoning.

At a quick look at rpm -ql systemd as a default we don't use resolved,
networkd or timesyncd in Fedora ... how much actual benefit versus
cost is there in splitting those out?
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