On 12/08/2017 11:59 AM, Charalampos Stratakis wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Dickson" <SteveD@xxxxxxxxxx> >> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Charalampos Stratakis" >> <cstratak@xxxxxxxxxx> >> Cc: "Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx>, "Yaakov Selkowitz" <yselkowi@xxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 5:46:03 PM >> Subject: Re: What to I have to do.... >> >> >> >> On 12/08/2017 11:21 AM, Charalampos Stratakis wrote: >>> The kernel is actually blacklisted from proven packager access, you can't >>> make changes there. >> This is good to know... how do you get on that list? ;-) >>> >>> Apart from that though, I don't really see any reasons for creating this >>> thread. >>> >>> Proven packagers do trivial and non-trivial cleanups all the time. While I >>> agree that a PR would be better, >>> when dealing with changes on a vast amount of packages that should be >>> ideally done in a timely manner, waiting for a >>> timely response from every single maintainer of the respective packages is >>> just not realistic. >> I understand the need to make massive changes... I no problem with that... >> The problem is random people are making non-critical, non-massive >> changes because they "feel" its the right thing to do. Those >> changes should go through the maintainer. >> >> steved. >> > > You will have to realize though, that at the moment you are currently talking from your perspective and only, so basically about your "feels" on the matter. > > And while certainly there might have been cases where a proven packager acted inappropriately, I don't see that particular case as such. I agree.. > > A proven packager is not someone random, they were given access based on various criteria and that IMHO includes the fact that their perception or "feels" > about what has to be done on other people's packages, is aligned with what has to be done for the overall improvement of the distribution. Fine... I understand your point... they have broader perspective... But can't they ask the maintainer to act on their feeling via a pull-request? steved. > _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx